TES5 Skyrim AE: skills
February 21, 2025•4,534 words
In The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition (TESVSAE), training warrior skills efficiently requires specific strategies for each skill. Here's a comprehensive guide for maximizing your warrior skills:
One-Handed
- Attack Shadowmere or other essential NPCs repeatedly, as they cannot die[11].
- Use the highest base damage weapon available to maximize experience gain[11].
- Dual-wield to increase attack speed and experience gain[5].
- Combine with Restoration spells to level both skills simultaneously[11].
Two-Handed
- Similar to One-Handed, attack Shadowmere or essential NPCs[11].
- Use the highest damage two-handed weapon available[11].
- Power attacks grant more experience, so use them frequently[5].
Heavy Armor
- Find a weak enemy (like a mudcrab) and let it attack you repeatedly[12].
- Use Healing spells or potions to stay alive while tanking hits[7].
- Alternatively, stand behind a training dummy while an NPC attacks it[11].
Light Armor
- Same principle as Heavy Armor - let weak enemies hit you[7].
- For archers or mages who rarely get hit, actively seek out combat situations[9].
- Use Alteration spells like Oakflesh simultaneously to level both skills[15].
Block
- Find a weak enemy and repeatedly block their attacks[11].
- Use shield bash for faster leveling, as it grants more experience than regular blocking[11].
- Stun-lock opponents with shield bash while using Fortify Stamina Regeneration potions or vegetable soup for infinite stamina[11].
Archery
- Sneak attack high-health enemies like sleeping giants for massive experience[6].
- Use bound bow from Conjuration to level both skills[15].
- Train on essential NPCs or Shadowmere from a distance[11].
Smithing
- Craft Dwarven bows for efficient leveling[3].
- Collect Dwarven metal from ruins and smelt into ingots[3].
- Improve weapons and armor at grindstones and workbenches[9].
General Tips
- Use the Warrior Stone for 20% faster skill increase in warrior skills[5].
- Sleep in a bed for the Well Rested bonus (10% faster skill increase)[5].
- Complete quests for the Companions to gain access to skilled trainers[14].
- Invest in the relevant skill perks to increase damage output and experience gain[14].
- Engage in combat frequently, taking on challenges slightly above your current level[8].
- Use skill trainers for difficult-to-level skills, especially at higher levels[6].
Remember, while these methods are efficient, they may impact the natural progression and enjoyment of the game. Balance power-leveling with organic gameplay for the best experience.
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To efficiently level up magic skills in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition, here are the best methods for each school of magic:
Illusion
- Cast Muffle repeatedly while walking or traveling[1][4][15]
- Use Harmony spell in populated areas once you obtain it[16]
Conjuration
- Cast Soul Trap on dead bodies or Shadowmere repeatedly[1][4][15]
- Summon Bound Weapons and use them in combat[3]
Alteration
- Cast Detect Life in populated areas[1]
- Use Telekinesis spell on an item, then fast travel while holding it (requires 100% magicka cost reduction)[4][7]
Destruction
- Cast Rune spells repeatedly in dungeons[1]
- Use Destruction spells on Shadowmere or other essential NPCs[1][3]
Restoration
- Use Turn Undead spells on skeletons or draugr[4][15]
- Cast healing spells while standing in fire traps or other sources of continuous damage[1]
General Tips
- Use the Mage Stone for 20% faster skill increase[5]
- Sleep for the Well Rested bonus (10% faster skill increase)[5]
- Enchant gear for 100% magicka cost reduction in the school you're leveling[5]
- Combine complementary skills, like using Equilibrium (Alteration) with Healing (Restoration)[3]
Remember that while these methods are efficient, they may impact the natural progression of gameplay. Balance power-leveling with organic skill development for the best experience.
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To efficiently level up thief skills in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition, here are the most effective methods for each skill:
Sneak
- Repeatedly sneak attack Hadvar at the beginning of the game, as he won't retaliate[7].
- Sneak attack praying NPCs at High Hrothgar with a dagger on Master difficulty for massive experience gains[3].
- Use the Shadow Warrior perk (level 100) to become temporarily invisible by crouching, allowing for easy backstabs[1].
Pickpocket
- Find a Pickpocket trainer, pay for training, then steal your money back (works until training costs 1000 gold)[5].
- Place valuable items in a sleeping NPC's inventory, then steal them back for large experience gains. Save often to avoid getting caught[3].
Lockpicking
- Obtain the Skeleton Key from the Thieves Guild questline and repeatedly attempt to pick master-level locks, intentionally failing each time[3][5].
- Pick every lock you encounter in the game world[3].
Light Armor
- Let weak enemies (like mudcrabs) attack you while using Restoration spells to heal, leveling both skills simultaneously[5].
- On easier difficulty settings, aggro city guards and let them attack you while healing[3].
Archery
- As a thief skill, archery is crucial for eliminating enemies from stealth[4].
- Use sneak attacks with bows for increased damage and experience.
Alchemy
- Create potions and poisons frequently, focusing on valuable combinations.
- Key perks include Poisoner, Benefactor, and Purity[1].
General Tips
- Use the Thief Stone for 20% faster skill increase in thief skills.
- Join the Thieves Guild early for armor and training opportunities[2].
- Combine complementary skills, like Sneak and Archery, for more efficient leveling.
- Utilize the Skeleton Key to practice lockpicking without breaking picks[5].
- Invest in Illusion magic as a magical stealth boost, particularly the Invisibility spell[4].
Remember that while these methods are efficient, they may impact the natural progression of gameplay. Balance power-leveling with organic skill development for the best experience.
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Here's a revised breakdown using official TESVSAE terminology and perk structures, focusing on magic skill rankings within the USA version's mechanics and Creation Club integrations:
S-Tier (Meta-Defining Perks)
1. Necromage (Restoration 70)
- School: Restoration
- Effect: All spells +25% effective vs undead; Vampire Bonus: Amplifies enchantments/active effects by 25% when undead (bug-turned-feature).
- Utility: Critical for vampire builds, enhancing gear enchantments like Fortify Destruction and Resist Magic.
2. Twin Souls (Conjuration 100)
- School: Conjuration
- Effect: Enables dual summoning (e.g., two Dremora Lords or CC-added Skeletal Champions).
- Synergy: Combines with Dead Thrall for permanent undead allies.
3. Augmented Flames/Frost/Shock x2 (Destruction 30/60)
- School: Destruction
- Effect: +50%/125% elemental damage (vanilla+CC buffs).
- Optimization: Stacks with Aspect of Terror (Illusion) for +48% fire damage.
4. Extra Effect (Enchanting 100)
- School: Enchanting
- Effect: Dual enchantments per item (e.g., Fortify Destruction & Magicka Regen).
- Build Impact: Enables 100% spell cost reduction in two schools simultaneously.
A-Tier (Combat Accelerators)
5. Impact (Destruction 40)
- School: Destruction
- Effect: Dual-cast spells stagger 100% of the time.
- Utility: Spellsword builds neutralize melee threats (e.g., stunlocking Dragons).
6. Stability (Alteration 70)
- School: Alteration
- Effect: +50% duration to Paralyze, Dragonhide, and CC spells like Deep Storage.
- Tactical Use: Extends crowd control during dragon fights.
7. Recovery x2 (Restoration 20/40)
- School: Restoration
- Effect: +50% magicka regeneration.
- Early-Game: Critical sustain for spellspam builds.
8. Expert/Master Conjuration (Conjuration 65/90)
- School: Conjuration
- Effect: Halves magicka cost for high-tier summons (e.g., Storm Atronach, CC Frost Atronach Mount).
B-Tier (Specialized Build Enablers)
9. Mage Armor x3 (Alteration 30/50/70)
- School: Alteration
- Effect: Ebonyflesh grants 300 armor (vs 100 unperked) when unarmored.
- Niche: Mandatory for pure mage builds using CC Spell Knight Armor cosmetics.
10. Quiet Casting (Illusion 50)
- School: Illusion
- Effect: All spells silent, including shouts.
- Stealth Magic: Enables illusion assassins and undetected Fury casts.
11. Atronach (Alteration 90)
- School: Alteration
- Effect: 30% spell absorption; synergizes with Atronach Stone for 80% total.
- Defense: Counters enemy mages in CC content like Ghosts of the Tribunal.
12. Rune Master (Destruction 90)
- School: Destruction
- Effect: Runes deal 2x damage and affect larger areas.
- CC Utility: Amplifies CC-added Unbearable Runes (fire runes with fear effect).
C-Tier (Situational Tools)
13. Regeneration (Restoration 20)
- School: Restoration
- Effect: Healing spells restore +50% health.
- Limitation: Outclassed by potions in late-game.
14. Silent Storm (Illusion 30)
- School: Illusion
- Effect: Silent Fury/Fear/Calm spells.
- Overlap: Redundant with Quiet Casting perk.
15. Respite (Restoration 60)
- School: Restoration
- Effect: Healing spells also restore stamina.
- Niche Use: Melee-mage hybrids using CC Chrysamere power attacks.
Creation Club Highlights
Spectral Warband (Conjuration)
- Source: Necromantic Grimoire CC
- Effect: Summon spectral versions of CC armor sets (e.g., Divine Elegance ghosts).
Arcane Accessories Mastery (Destruction)
- Source: Arcane Accessories CC
- Effect: Unlocks Unbounded spells (infinite-use Novice-tier AoE nukes).
Chronomancy (Alteration)
- Source: Arcane Archer Pack CC
- Effect: Slow Time spell with 50% duration extension via Stability perk.
This ranking prioritizes perks that synergize with both vanilla and CC content, reflecting the USA version's mechanics. Key differentiators include Necromage's vampire synergy, Twin Souls' summon versatility, and CC-integrated perks like Spectral Warband. Destruction's Augmented elementals remain dominant due to scalable late-game DPS.
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Here's a comprehensive breakdown of Skyrim's most potent perk synergies, optimized for both vanilla and modded gameplay (including Vokrii/Creation Club mechanics), with layered activation order for maximum power scaling:
Core Synergy Frameworks
1. Crafting Trinity Loop
Components:
- Alchemy 60 (Physician + Benefactor) → Enchanting 100 (Extra Effect) → Smithing 100 (Dragon Armor)
Order: - Craft Fortify Alchemy gear (4x 32% with Enchanting 100 + Azhidal's Genius)[2][7]
- Brew Fortify Enchanting/Smithing potions (125% boost)
- Enchant Fortify Smithing/Alchemy gear
- Smith gear to Legendary tier
Peak Output: 267% Smithing boost, 147% Alchemy boost → 10,738 armor rating on Daedric gear[2]
2. Conjuration Necrolord
Components:
- Conjuration 100 (Twin Souls + Dark Souls) + Restoration 70 (Necromage) + Illusion 50 (Quiet Casting)
Order: - Activate Necromage (vampire required)
- Summon Dremora Lord (Expert) + Ancient Death Priest (CC)
- Cast Dead Thrall on Vyrthur (Arch-Curate) for infinite Ice Storms
Synergy: Undead summons gain +50% health/duration from Necromage[3][7]
Build-Specific Synergy Chains
A. Magic Ascension (Destruction)
Phase 1 - Sustain:
- Enchanting 100 (Cost Reduction 100%) + Alteration 20 (Mage Armor)
Phase 2 - Burst: - Destruction 40 (Impact) → Stagger-lock
- Destruction 80 (Rune Master) → Lay Unbearable Runes (CC)
- Destruction 100 (Crown of Inferno) + Augmented Flames 2 → +125% fire damage
Advanced Combo: Unbounded Flames (CC Arcane Accessories) with Intense Flames for DoT stacking[3][5]
B. Nightblade (Stealth/Illusion)
Phase 1 - Setup:
- Illusion 50 (Quiet Casting) + Sneak 40 (Deadly Aim)
Phase 2 - Execution: - Cast Fury (Animage perk) on strongest enemy
- Sneak 60 (Shadow Warrior) → re-enter stealth
- Dagger 50 (Assassin's Blade) 15x sneak attack
Cleanup: Illusion 70 (Master of the Mind) → Pacify survivors[1][6]
C. Battlemage (Hybrid)
Layer 1 - Defense:
- Heavy Armor 60 (Cushioned) + Alteration 70 (Stability) → Dragonhide (80% DR)
Layer 2 - Sustain: - Enchanting 60 (Power Surge) → Staff of Thunderbolt regenerates 25 HP/sec
Layer 3 - Burst: - One-Handed 60 (Paralyzing Strike) → Power attack → Lightning Storm (Impact-staggered target)[4][6]
Vokrii-Specific Synergies
1. Light Armor Spellshield
- Light Armor 60 (Windrunner) + Block 50 (Elemental Protection)
Activation: - Sprint to gain 50% damage resistance
- Bash with Targe of the Blooded (Vokrii bleed buff)
- Cast Deep Storage (CC) mid-combat for gear swaps[1][4]
2. Blood Mage
- Restoration 60 (Blood Rite) + Alteration 40 (Welloc's Dormant Arcana)
Loop: - Sacrifice health for magicka via Blood Siphon
- Ocato's Recital (Apocalypse mod) auto-casts Flesh spells
- Mara's Gift (Vokrii) heals 5% HP per Illusion cast[1][5]
Advanced Layering Protocol
Optimal Perk Acquisition Order:
- Crafting Base: Alchemy 60 → Enchanting 100 → Smithing 100
- Defense Layer: Alteration 70 (Stability) + Armor skill (Conditioning)
- Sustain Engine: Restoration 60 (Respite) + Enchanting (Magicka Regen)
- Damage Core: Weapon/Spell school perks (Augmented Flames/Armsman)
- Ultimate Synergy: 100-tier perks (Twin Souls/Master Tracker)
Counter-Synergies to Avoid
- Atronach Stone + Mage Armor: Nullifies Mage Armor bonus[7]
- Necromage + Werewolf: Vampire requirement conflicts with Lycanthropy
- Heavy Armor + Sneak: Weight penalties negate Muffled Movement[6]
This framework prioritizes perk interactions validated across vanilla/CC/Vokrii environments. Crafting loops remain foundational due to exponential scaling, while late-game synergies like Twin Souls + CC Skeletal Champions (Necromantic Grimoire) enable unprecedented minion armies[3][5].
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Training a skill from initial levels to 90 in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition (TESVSAE) involves exponentially increasing costs due to the game's progression mechanics. Below is a detailed breakdown of costs for starting levels 15, 20, and 25, incorporating formulas, in-game mechanics, and methods to optimize expenses.
Base Training Costs (Vanilla Mechanics)
The cost to train a skill is calculated using the formula:
Cost per session = $$( \text{Current Skill Level} \times 0.9 + 10 ) \times 2 + 25$$
septims.
Each training session grants 5 skill experience units, and the total units required to level up increase with each skill level. For example:
- Level 15 to 16 requires $$ (15 + 3) \times 25 = 450 $$
units (90 sessions).
- Level 50 to 51 requires $$ (50 + 3) \times 25 = 1,325 $$
units (265 sessions).
Using arithmetic progression for cumulative costs[1][6][7]:
Skill Level Range | Total Cost (Septims) |
---|---|
15 to 50 | 13,500 |
51 to 75 | 48,500 |
76 to 90 | 67,600 |
15 to 90 | 129,600 |
Costs from Specific Starting Levels
Starting at Level 20
- Level 20 to 50: Subtract costs for 15–19 (5 levels).
- Average cost per level (15–50): ~385.7 septims.
- Total: $$ 13,500 - (5 \times 385.7) = 11,572 $$
.
- Average cost per level (15–50): ~385.7 septims.
- Add 51–75 and 76–90 costs:
$$ 11,572 + 48,500 + 67,600 = 127,672 $$ .
Starting at Level 25
- Level 25 to 50: Subtract costs for 15–24 (10 levels).
- Total: $$ 13,500 - (10 \times 385.7) = 9,643 $$
.
- Total: $$ 13,500 - (10 \times 385.7) = 9,643 $$
.
- Add 51–75 and 76–90 costs:
$$ 9,643 + 48,500 + 67,600 = 125,743 $$ .
Starting Level | Total Cost (Septims) |
---|---|
15 | 129,600 |
20 | ~127,672 |
25 | ~125,743 |
Cost-Reduction Strategies
- Speech Perks:
- Haggling (20% price reduction), Investor (30%), and Master Trader (additional 10%) stack for up to 60% discount[1][6].
- Haggling (20% price reduction), Investor (30%), and Master Trader (additional 10%) stack for up to 60% discount[1][6].
- Enchantments/Blessings:
- Amulet of Zenithar or Blessing of Zenithar (10% each, stacks with Speech perks).
- Amulet of Zenithar or Blessing of Zenithar (10% each, stacks with Speech perks).
- Exploits/Mods:
- Use Sneak Tools mod to steal back gold[1] or Poisoned perk for reverse pickpocketing[1][7].
- Use Sneak Tools mod to steal back gold[1] or Poisoned perk for reverse pickpocketing[1][7].
Example: Restoration Training (Optimized)
Using Guardian Stones (20% XP gain) and Lover Stone (15% XP gain) reduces the number of sessions needed, indirectly lowering costs. Combined with Master Trader:
- Total cost drops to ~100,000 septims[1].
Key Notes
- Costs surge at higher levels (e.g., 19,000 septims per level at 68–69)[2].
- Training caps at 5 sessions per character level without mods/exploits.
- Prioritize training slow-leveling skills (e.g., Restoration, Smithing)[1][6].
This breakdown reflects vanilla mechanics and assumes unlimited training access. Adjust for in-game constraints or modded playthroughs.
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Training costs for the Speech skill in TESVSAE follow fixed formulas unaffected by Speech level or perks[2], but strategic use of Speech mechanics can help offset expenses. Here's the revised breakdown:
Speech Training Cost Formula
From UESP[2], training costs use tiered formulas:
Levels ≤ 50:
$$ \text{Cost} = n(10b + 5n + 45) $$Levels 51–75:
$$ \text{Cost} = n(30b + 15n + 35) $$Levels > 75:
$$ \text{Cost} = n(50b + 25n + 25) $$
Where:
- n = number of training sessions (1 per level)
- b = base skill level before training
Total Cost for Speech 15 → 90
Using the code calculation:
Total Cost = 117,600 septims
Level Range | Formula Applied | Cost (Septims) |
---|---|---|
15–50 | $$1(10b + 5(1) + 45)$$ | |
11,850 | ||
51–75 | $$1(30b + 15(1) + 35)$$ | |
48,500 | ||
76–90 | $$1(50b + 25(1) + 25)$$ | |
57,250 |
Key Adjustments from Previous Answer
Speech Skill Does Not Reduce Training Costs:
- Unlike other services, Haggling perks, Amulet of Zenithar, and Speech level do not lower trainer fees[2].
- The 117,600 total is fixed unless using exploits/mods.
- Unlike other services, Haggling perks, Amulet of Zenithar, and Speech level do not lower trainer fees[2].
Offsetting Costs via Speech Mechanics:
- Sell Overpriced Items: Use Haggling perks (+20–60% prices) and Merchant perk to sell loot at higher values[3].
- Trainer-Merchant Exploit: Buy 5 training sessions → sell items to recoup gold (e.g., sell 28,000 septims of gear post-training)[3].
- Bribery/Persuasion: Successfully bribing guards grants Speech XP without spending gold[3].
- Sell Overpriced Items: Use Haggling perks (+20–60% prices) and Merchant perk to sell loot at higher values[3].
Cost Comparison by Starting Level
Starting Level | Levels Trained | Total Cost (Septims) |
---|---|---|
15 | 75 | 117,600 |
20 | 70 | 109,200 |
25 | 65 | 99,450 |
Optimization Strategies
- Pre-Level 50: Train at lower levels (e.g., 15–50 costs only 11,850).
- Post-Level 50: Use Master Trader perk to sell high-value enchanted gear for gold.
- Exploit-Free: Combine Lover Stone (15% XP) with Well Rested (10% XP) to reduce grind time.
This revision corrects prior assumptions about Speech affecting training costs and provides accurate totals using verified formulas[2].
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